He posted a 1-3 record and 4.83 ERA in 19 games, including three starts. Stieb, who had the second-most wins in the decade at 140, doesnt think the stat should be the decider. "All we did," says Mattick, "was try to give him a changeup and work a little on his control. That winter Mattick took Stieb to the Florida Instructional League to work exclusively on his pitching. . In case anyones wondering, Stiebs heard of WAR. where he ran a construction company and spent much of his time with his family. Thank you for the opportunity.'". It is a convivial conversation. Thus a Stieb game rarely lasts longer than 120 pitches. MORE: Lou Whitaker on Cooperstown snub: 'I didn't even get daylight', I surely did not deserve to be just wiped off the map after the first-year ballot, Stieb said. In 1985, Stieb signed with the Blue Jays what was then one of the richest contracts in baseball. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. He continues to be in . Maybe he thought that at this point, hed seen it all. He is known for being a Baseball Player. I'm a real competitor who just doesn't deal too well with failure. My home looks beautiful! Born: ", Jones, however, appealed to Stieb's sense of team spirit. We are very please and will definitely call Mastercraft if we have needs in the future", "Very easy to work with. And that, to the amazement of even the most optimistic of his boosters in the Blue Jay organization, was also the year he made the big leagues. Always a pleasure to speak with Lisa-very friendly! We're interested now in developing the total man.". "I said, 'I've come full circle. David Andrew Stieb (/stib/; born July 22, 1957) is a former Major League Baseball right-handed starting pitcher for the Toronto Blue Jays. No one, not even Mattick, his discoverer, expected Stieb to progress with such astonishing alacrity through the Totonto system. Sometimes when Stieb pitched, it did not look like he was having fun. Stieb never went on the disabled list until excessive working out in 1991 gave him a herniated disk in his back, aggravated by a collision near first base that spring. Sport as a metaphor for life has been a common theme in Bois documentaries, and here it never is contrived. That wasn't in his personality in the past. Total Zone Rating and initial framework for Wins above Replacement calculations provided by Sean Smith. He considered calling the whole thing off. All Rights Reserved. "Dave Stieb," says the Orioles' designated hitter, Ken Singleton, "is no picnic.". I was almost reluctant to go." That's not a tough pitch to pick up. Again, Thank you", "Quick accurate bid, finish on time, excellent quality work, nice painters", "I was especially pleased with how much pride your company takes in its work", "Very impressed on time, cleaned up very nicely, efficient. Report this film, shed real tears when that beautiful blue beacon shot up into the sky, After I graduated from college, I pretty much stopped watching movies for about five years. He had that good slider. "I like rock and roll and heavy metal. Find out more. As we've discussed recently, Stieb was one of the best pitchers to pitch in the 1980s. His older brother, Steve, was a catcher in the Atlanta Braves system for three seasons, batting .217 as a professional and never reaching above Double-A ball. Stieb is the subject of the 2022 four-part miniseries Captain Ahab: The Story of Dave Stieb, by Secret Base's Jon Bois and Alex Rubenstein; in addition to discussing his career, it advocates for his induction into the National Baseball Hall of Fame based on his accomplishments.[21]. I totally respect him and his skills and what he did. My worst problem with the guitar when I first played it, I wanted to play speed metal. The first is that the Modern Baseball Committee ballot, which spans MLB figures who made their greatest contribution to the game between 1970 and 1987, looks like it will be packed. "I'm all right," he says. Dave Stieb didn't become a pitcher until five years ago, but now he's one of the best, 2023 ABG-SI LLC. He is eager to expound. You do a great job. He currently resides in California, United States. This is how the sport of baseball moves: not at all and then, all at once, with such terrifying speed the lines begin to bend, and then not at all Part 1 solidPart 2 incrediblePart 3 fuck Jack MorrisPart 4 Stieb to the hall of Fame or we riot, gotta be one of my favorite movies about Dave Stieb, When the Jays legend to end all Jays legends gets into Cooperstown on the Era Committee ballot and thanks Bois and Rubenstein in his speech, I will be hooting and hollering and sobbing and completely unintelligible, I bet he would trade it all if he could go back to his prime for one more afternoon at the yard, "The curtain's on its way. IMDb Baseball Primer (later Baseball Think Factory). Dave Stieb was drafted by the Toronto Blue Jays in the 5th round of the 1978 MLB June Amateur Draft from Southern Illinois University Carbondale (Carbondale, IL). He has the same delivery today as he had then. the most among any pitcher. And yet he bounded jubilantly to the mound to face the Yankees in the bottom of the ninth. Works (John and Mike) were on time, neat and clean, pleasant to be around and very skilled at their job", "Thanks for seeing the job through to get it right", "Pleased that you were reliable and honest about doing the painting while I was away. They both were clean and polite", "Excellent work from beginning to end. . Chances are he had not been born when Dave Stieb of the Toronto Blue Jays was one of baseball's elite pitchers, and perhaps its most truculent. That's the mark of a good pitcher. Well, this is a guy who had never stepped on a pitchers mound in his life until age 20. Or write about sports? We are 100% satisfied with the excellent quality of work. They did a commendable job of surface preparation, applying primer, sealer and paint. We all can learn a lot from Dave Stieb about patience, fulfillment, and passion. But his fierce intensity was also the engine of his success. Stieb played for the Blue Jays from 1979-92. He was 5-2 with a 2.13 earned run average in his month there. John and Mike were professional, meticulous, kept us informed; we could tell they take pride in their work. "To me, ERA is indicative of who's better," Stieb said. And when he struck out Steve Kemp to end the game, he fairly leaped for joy. Copyright 2000-2023 Sports Reference LLC. Every Sports Reference Social Media Account, Site Last Updated: Saturday, March 4, 12:52AM. Butera said Stieb should tell the Jays he was ready to pitch again. Letterboxd is an independent service created by a small team, and we rely mostly on the support of our members to maintain our site and apps. ", "You guys are great. He has come so far in such a short time. Past history made LaMonte urge Stieb to make peace with Toronto. 228mins He ended up winning 158 games in the 1980s, which was. What a season it was! Lisa is great! Rookie season: 18 starts, 8-8, league average ERA+ (the team was 53-109; not quite Carlton going 27-10 but still very impressive) 1980-85 seasonal average: 34 starts, 13 CG, 254 IP, 3.07 ERA, 139 ERA+. He finished the '79 American League season with eight wins and eight defeats for a team with 109 losses. A bobblehead giveaway will feature the likenesses of Stieb, Roy Halladay and Pat Hentgen on the same pedestal. A Patent Pending People Search Process. 293 Dave Stieb Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images All Entertainment News Archival Browse 293 dave stieb stock photos and images available, or start a new search to explore more stock photos and images. Wear Tuxedos - would be a nice touch", "We appreciate being listened to as our ideas about what we wanted changed. They couldnt do a better job and a 100% warranty, Mastercraft honors their contract", "They are very good and will go the extra mile for you and that counts a lot", "Excellent service. 7-time MLB All-Star pitcher who played 14 seasons with the Toronto Blue Jays. "I was living in Lake Tahoe and just loving life and being with my kids and stuff, Stieb said. Well Done - 5 STARS!! But Mattick and LaMacchia had their doubts. Stieb says with a smile. won three or even four AL Cy Young Awards while with the Blue Jays. On September 2, 1990, he pitched the first (and, as of 2022[update], only) no-hitter in Blue Jays history, defeating the Cleveland Indians 30. Your ability is a given, but signing autographs, talking decently to a writer, things like that, will separate you from the crowd. Photos by John Lott. And he had great velocity. Dave Stieb weighed 185 lbs (83 kg) when playing. (405) 947-1643. We hadn't liked him as a hitter, but he sure as hell opened our eyes when he started pitching. This is the almost unbelievable story of the man who put the Toronto Blue Jays on the map. A few fans might be saying the same thing, just as they did in Vancouver. It's all in the release, and he had that from the start. [11] While this was seen to be generous at the time the contract was signed, by the time the later years of the contract came around this was a bargain, considering that several players were receiving several times the amount per year. Your office staff (Lisa) very pleasant, helpful and very patient with me and my multiple color changes. And I don't think that's enough to make it to the Hall of Fame.". I realize now I could've had my butt kicked for the stuff I used to do. The Book: Playing the Percentages in Baseball, Did not play in major or minor leagues (Did Not Play), Salaries may not be complete (especially pre-1985) and may not include some earned bonuses, Note, this is done in an automated way, so we apologize for any errors, & please. The old battles are over. A case can be made with sabermetrics that Stieb not Jack Morris was the best pitcher of the 1980s and would be a worthy addition to Cooperstown. Stieb pitches quickly, partly because of his restless nature, partly because the fast pace upsets many hitters and partly because his fielders stay more alert when the game is moving along briskly. Many thanks to him. He appreciated the chance to close the circle. They see their boy out there pitching and say, 'Oh boy, isn't that great.' Watch. ", Stieb has had protracted and bitter contract disputes with the Blue Jays, invariably involving demands to be traded, but all was resolved this February when LaMonte, who still works as a teacher, and Blue Jay vice-presidents Pat Gillick and Paul Beeston agreed to a six-year deal that could pay Stieb, with incentive clauses, as much as $1 million a year. "All he's got on me is two Cy Youngs and a World Series that he actually pitched in, Stieb said. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. Dave Stieb's Golden Years: 1982-85. Could he just sneak in, get a photo signed and then leave? vs. BAL 6.0 IP, 6 H, 5 SO, 2 BB, 5 ER, L, Last Game: Dave Stieb's struggle is universal, gut wrenching, and inspiring. You forget how young he is. Dave Stieb had hall of fame stuff. Dave Stieb was one of the best pitchers in baseball in the 1980s and he played for the Toronto Blue Jays for parts of 15 seasons. Dave Stieb has not been elected into the Hall of Fame. Stieb entered the league primarily as a power pitcher,[15] relying on a high, inside fastball to strike batters out. "I don't think I even knew how to figure an ERA in those days. When he took the ball for his first major league start, Stieb had pitched, counting college baseball, a grand total of 216 innings in his lifetime. We present them here for purely educational purposes. 14,202nd in major league history) I ask him how he thinks he stacks up. Their current project will take another two years to finish. Helpful Nice guys", "I enjoyed having them do my house. In 1985, Stieb signed with the Blue Jays what was then one of the most lucrative contracts in baseball. Back with the Blue Jays, he was not great, but he had moments when he was good, especially for a rusty 40-year-old. he says. "He's always had good stuff. "He's like me, Stieb said, looking at Saberhagens numbers. Author: Ron Fimrite. That's crazy. He is tied with Mike Mussina who, like Stieb, spent his entire career (with the exception of four starts for Stieb) in the American League East. Maybe he though. When he was playing in the 1980s, he became interested in real estate through his agent and ever since then has used his savvy to buy and sell residential properties. On one hand, Stieb said he wasnt that surprised with the outcome. }, Cronkite School at ASU Stieb's autobiography, Tomorrow I'll Be Perfect, was co-written with Kevin Boland and released in 1986. Stieb's parentsPete, a San Jose general contractor, and Pat, a delivery-woman for the San Jose Mercuryhadn't allowed either Dave or his older brother, Steve, a former minor league catcher, to pitch in youth baseball. He goes, 'They use that like crazy now to gauge how good someone really is. He goes, If they looked at that when you were playing, you would have won four Cy Young Awards in a row, Stieb said, noting it would have been 1982 through 1985 when he led for WAR three consecutive years and finished second the fourth. But, says Jones, "the scouts couldn't know when he was going to pitch because we never did." All images are property the copyright holder and are displayed here for informational purposes only. He's such an outstanding athlete, we all expect him to be older. He was 5-0 there when the Blue Jays moved him in May to their Triple A Syracuse farm. No-Hitters, .avia-section.av-k6v62xgq-c0812a68936ee67ed4883eaa9d35be9b{ Eventual triumph. [4] Previously, on September 24 and 30, 1988, Stieb had no-hitters broken up with two outs and two strikes in the top of the ninth inning in two consecutive starts. . It is difficult to imagine Stieb patiently embracing this experience in his playing days. Kyle and Chris were not only the hardest workers we have seen, but were also courteous, on-time every day, and took great pride in their workmanship. As of 2023, Dave Stieb's net worth is $100,000 - $1M. Before that, he was one of MLB's best pitchers, and made a triumphant return to the mound in 1998 after a five-year hiatus. from the SABR BioProject, More Dave Stieb Pages at Baseball Reference. ", "They all make the customer feel that your job is important to them", "Just keep doing what you are doing. Stieb drew just 1.4 percent, or seven votes, of 506 votes cast in 2004 and that was that. ", "Always showed up on time. SPORTS ILLUSTRATED is a registered trademark of ABG-SI LLC. Injuries also played a role in curtailing Stiebs career and preventing him from accumulating more of the counting stats Hall of Fame voters so value. Someone who has been a pitcher from high school on up may actually have more problems. Whereas with other pitchers this would be seen as a sign of weakness, with Stieb it was perceived as the best way to motivate himself to get out of a jam. On May 3, 1978 Bobby Mattick, then the director of player development for the Toronto Blue Jays, and Blue Jay scout Al LaMacchia were stationed near the stands on the first-base side in a little ball park in Charleston, Ill., when the visiting centerfielder jogged in to pitch the sixth inning. Dave Stieb's struggle is universal, gut wrenching, and inspiring. I was a pitcher to be reckoned with, obviously.". Stieb had been asked to try pitching by his Oak Grove High coach, John Bessa, and, at the behest of a pro scout, by his San Jose City College coach, John Oldham. In Vancouver, we do not talk about any of that, nor about his remarkable career: the 175 wins in 15 seasons as a Blue Jay, the 3.24 ERA over his 11-year prime, the year he logged 288 1/3 innings and 19 complete games, his no-hitter and the three that got away with two outs and two strikes in the ninth inning. In the summer of 1978, as a concession to Stieb's lingering outfielder's sensibility, the Blue Jays assigned him to Dunedin as a combination pitcher-outfielder, instructing Manager Denis Menke to play him as a designated hitter the day after he pitched and as an outfielder in the other games between starts. If I keep doing this, it can only get better,'" he says. [18], Stieb currently resides in Reno, Nevada, where he works as a building contractor. I can end it on my own terms. "He's so tight. Stieb's name is honored by the Blue Jays in the, Toronto Blue Jays Opening Day starting pitchers, List of Major League Baseball annual ERA leaders, List of Major League Baseball career hit batsmen leaders, "Toronto Blue Jays at Chicago White Sox Box Score, August 24, 1985", "Dave Stieb Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More", "Jays sign Stieb to 11-year deal for $25 million", "Ryan Raburn hits pair of home runs to power Tigers in Toronto", "FedEx Dave Stieb Bobblehead Day is Sun Aug 29 vs. Tigers. He smiled. It is three hours before game time at Nat Bailey Stadium in Vancouver. the official stats partner of the NBA, NHL and MLB. ", "You and your crew are far superior to any other repair people or workers weve had in the past", "You were very professional, very fair in your bid and the house looks excellent", "You did what you said you would do and you did it well, and did it for the price quoted. I felt like I was stuck. [2] Stieb holds career records for Toronto pitchers in wins, games started, shutouts, strikeouts, complete games and a variety of other categories. I would recommend your company to anyone who is looking to have a painting job done and wants to work with reliable, competitively prices professionals", "Thank you so much for a job well done - you are experts in all aspects of painting and decorating, and we look forward to working with you in the future", "Our house looks beautiful - excellent craftsmanship. Stucco, skylights, kitchen islands, walk-in closets. Watch our How-To Videos to Become a Stathead, Subscribe to Stathead and get access to more data than you can imagine. David Andrew Stieb ( / stib /; born July 22, 1957) is a former Major League Baseball right-handed starting pitcher for the Toronto Blue Jays. After 1990, Stieb struggled with injuries. You keep the client informed of changes (due to weather) through the entire process", "Dont Quit. Copyright 2023 Sporting News Holdings Limited. Everyone including office staff was wonderful", "Very pleased with the painting. [3], Stieb played for the Blue Jays from 1979 to 1992 and again in 1998. I won't do the things I used to. [1] A seven-time All-Star, he also won The Sporting News ' Pitcher of the Year Award in 1982. As a service-driven real estate professional, I recognize people who have the same business ethics as I do and totally appreciate them. I ended up telling people that reacted that way, 'You know, I feel like I'm in the second part of my life. ", "I tell everyone how pleased I am with the job and how wonderful you all are!! Dave Stieb was born on July 22, 1957, in Santa Ana, California. Join our linker program. Instead, he spent a few years playing in the outfield for a local softball team as one of its home run hitters before the majors beckoned again for a short comeback in 1998. HE HAD NOT. background-color:#ba3434; 555 N. Central Ave. #416 Magnum_44 3 yr. ago. 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