The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. This is something Butch Harmon has been trying to get Danielle Kang to do for a few years because it simplifies the shot and you can go at the flag more. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. In the following table the list shows how far a selection of PGA and LPGA Tour pros hit their 3-wood, 5-wood and hybrid clubs. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Unless of course it's short enough to hit the 3 wood or driver at the green. When you account for factors such as wind, elevation, ground conditions and also the context in which the shot is being played Koepka, like all the pros, has a number of options for each iron shot which makes the question of how far he hits each iron a bit more complex than at first you may think. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. It's good for some laughs. This course setup for the AMA is assuming a perfectly optimal drive by the golfer so in theory 395 yards would be a maximum length for the AMA based on 50% GIR. TrackMan - Have a look at Justin Thomas' swing and | Facebook endobj The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. TEST INFO TOTAL SCORE [/quote] Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high Spin Rate 2,645.8 TSi2 18, VTS Silver 8xMizuno MP Fli Hi 21, Recoil 110MP-20 MMC 5-P,DG X100SM850F, 54S, 58MPXGCloser Gen 2Tour BX. I need to know few things before buying. I grabbed the 46 degree to see if I could finally be that 3 wedge Vokey golfer, it was so good I asked for an entire iron set of Vokeys. Too many people walking around either who hit one drive at 300 a round and the rest slice 100 yards that only go 200 straight trying to tell people how great they are at golf when in reality they take like 6 mulligans a round or guys that are actually really good think that they are the norm when in reality they are a small minority and golf would not even exist if it were not for guys like me . Oddly, I bet you find that you do NOT score significantly better than your handicap even though the distances are short. Golf critics talk about technology making golf courses obsolete because of distance, but what they fail to clarify is that this only pertains to 0.1% of the golfing population. TI Taylormade SIM Ti (15.4) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80X The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. Because winning money, titles, and shooting low scores doesnt involve all that much power hitting, especially with the irons. Have a look at his numbers. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. WebIn 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. Golf Concepts - This is Justin Thomas TrackMan Numbers. Can trackman info like the dispersion plot data be projected over a course layout? As you can guess my improvement has now become dependent on driver efficiency and distance. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. [/quote] In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 85 S, Irons: Callaway Apex Forged (2021) (4-PW) I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Titleist 712 CB 4-9, MB PW KBS Tour (HS1X) [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] Launch angle was between 17-22. I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. As we can again see from Brooks Koepkas yardage book above he has 5 different yardages listed for each of his specialist wedges which highlights just how much distance control the best golfers in the world can exert with their wedges. [/quote] X-Forged UT (#3- 21)- DG X700 This put him near the bottom of the pack. Not at all. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? Shafts: KBS Tour 125 S+, Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 (50-09SB, 54-11SB, 60-08LB) Our TrackMan Combine database would contain the answer to those questions, but it would require significant work to pull that information out. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] I am a 35 year old AMA at a 15. Callaway XR Pro (20) Diamana White 90X As a whole PGA pros hit their pitching wedge an average carry distance of 141 yards. [quote name='J.W.' Justin is committed to showing benevolence and grace to children in need, with the goal of bolstering their confidence, strengthening their determination, and allowing them great possibilities. Little higher launch, still low spin into the wind, and much easier to swing day in and day out. SM5 53, 59 I ultimately decided on the Tour AD DI 6X as a better choice. Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. *Normalized data was used to calculate approach shot distances. In the bag I think the wedges looks great. IF a smaller easier course with less hazards I will play from blue but I am having a ton of fun and scoring between 90 and 97 consistently every time with an average drive of around 220 yards. My question is my average D is +5.3, 6I is +3.5 and 8I is +2.1. Vokey (TVD SM7 RAW 52 & SM6 RAW 58)- DG S400 And that was 12 years ago. Your email address will not be published. But then on the next hole when they come back down the hill with the wind behind them, they all go 340. Its a whole different story. Length is nothing. All too many golfers go to the course and hit every shot in the hope its the best shot theyve ever hit. The consistency of impact through the sand was staggering, I seemed to take the exact same amount of sand and impact location every time. TrackMan However the pros have what is called a stock yardage for their irons, which equates essentially to the average distance they will hit a full shot with each iron swinging normally. There is the same classic stamping on the sole with the BV logo in the middle, SM9 written towards the toe and Vokey Design nearer the heel. WebThis is Justin Thomas TrackMan Numbers How does yours Compare? I would have guessed #1 because of the "low spin" mantra, even though the launch is a touch low. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Analysis, What Clubs Do LPGA players use? My 8 iron 190yards 5iron 252 yards Pw is 150yrds And loft 56 at 120yrds Loft 110 yrds How do i control the power to less distance? How about heading out to Wedgefield in Georgetown, SC? Jon Rahm - TrackMan Numbers - TrackMan Golf Smash Factor 1.475 What a great read with invaluable data and information. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph., The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. [/quote] You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. My total yardage for my 7 iron is 190, my ball speed is 119 mph. It is all about the short game He is committed to having a positive effect on their lives. The wedge glided through the turf and nipped the ball at impact, resulting in reliable soft strikes. <>stream Please include a self-addressed envelope with prepaid postage for return. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Tiger Woods Trackman numbers, I thought they were posted on here at one time from an event. Get off the elite courses and look at the ones where people are paying maybe $45 to play, not $200+. I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. 4 out of 1000 swings avg 117 mph? If a 50% greens in regulation (GIR) stat was desired for the AMA, then the approach shot would need to be approximately 140 yards. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. But you also have to add in the slight mishits, the rainy days, and the balls that land in the rough. TI Taylormade SIM (9.0) Tensei CK Pro Orange 70TX Circa62, Tiger also ranks 125th on tour in total driving efficiency. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: Also, the dispersion for misses will be much wider for the AMA than the professional. When we compare these stock yardages for irons between the pros we get a consistent view of yardage which we can accurately compare across the players. 915 FD How to Hit Massive Drives! Does that make sense? How Far Do Pro Golfers Hit Each Club? A 2022 Guide They were measured with GPS. By understanding simple averages and probabilities, a golfer can choose the best club and target for each shot. Their drives seem to always go miles and I dont know about you but Im always checking myself to think whether I indeed heard the commentator correctly that they are actually hitting that high an iron for that 200+ yard approach shot. The longest player hits it 320 yards on average and the longest recorded drive in 2022 is 460 yards. Web27K views, 94 likes, 1 loves, 33 comments, 13 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from TrackMan: Congratulations to Justin Thomas, winning the CJ Cup! For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. These high-level numbers of course dont always tell the whole story as the pros like us are faced with an infinite variety of golf shots which dont always mean they are hitting each club as far as they possibly can for every shot. When it comes to talking about distance in golf the easiest and most obvious place to start is of course always with the longest club in the golf bag the driver. Im 46 years old and dont think my 95 mph swing speed will increase that dramatically without throwing rhythm off. But he does not average those. Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high And this is about DJs average big drive when he swings harder, at around 125 mph. And I suppose they hit it relatively far, but nearly the distances that the public thinks. It's good for some laughs. Tee and Approach Shots! I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. The one at 3811 spin carried 8.3 yards further. Thanks for the post. I bet your average golfer on your average course doesnt hit more than 160-175. It's good for some laughs. [/quote] (Unimpededof course, because we always were able to play during the week). Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364408786' post='6708081'] The 12 felt good but the 8 slid through the turf and cushioned the ball off the face. Apex Height 112' 11" This demonstrates that without changing technique and only changing strategy, the AMA can improve their performance. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. How to gain more distance without swinging faster? http://web.tigerwoods.com/onTour/seasonStatistics. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. Club Head Speed 119.55 He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees.The following table looks at the AMA versus what is optimal., *Carry, Landing Angle, and Total were normalized under 0 alti- tude, 75F, and 75% humidity for the AMA to create an apples to apples comparison. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. Dear friend, do anyone here user Taylormade RSI 1 Irons. Desired launch angle, spin rates change based on driver speed. What about this awesome drive from Dustin Johnson in Hawaii that everyone was talking about: So the drive went 433 yards. I genuinely believe Vokeys make me a better bunker player, the SM8s changed my bunker game and these are just as good. That's what I think. You can check the combine driver stats here: https://mytrackman.com/#combine. When I watch professional events I am always taken aback by how high they hit their driver but how low they hit their wedges. me too! [/quote] Is it around 25-35% less then the AMA group? Most of my longer clubs only just creep above the 200 yd mark. Notice how few balls landed past the target.. Made more swing improvement of late and starting to control my driver more. I cant hide my excitement and love for a Vokey wedge and it doesnt change on these. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Im sure most of them can squeeze out 10 extra yards on every club on this chart. TrackMan - Did you see Justin Thomas' TrackMan numbers? . I went into a facility with Trackman launch monitors and have attached This is really intersting reading and I could not agree more with the finding your distance principal. Another added complication when it comes to comparing the distances that the pros hit their wedges is the differing lofts each of them often carries for seemingly the same club. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. beginer level female golfer how to to benefit ths..is this correct this tracker.. Love all of this data and seeing exactly what the correlation is between the data and player performance! 4 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X, Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x, Putter- Odyssey Vesa 12 center stroke lab shaft. I dont want my Vokeys to look different to the past designs, I barely want them to perform differently either as you want reliability around the greens. Thanks for posting. Master the Swing Plane and Handle Path for Increased Distance and Accuracy! Theyre familiar and consistent, you wont see Bob Vokey ever designing a wedge with a high toe or full face of grooves. On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. I suppose you have the biggest and fastest car as well ? There are golfers out there who are scratch only hitting the ball 200-250. It's not the length that makes a pro. show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. Book a Session for only R500 to get your Swing Analysis. I do agree the AMA should be playing much shorter courses than most presently do. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila NV 7-wood: Michael Hopper whats in the bag accurate as of the WM Phoenix Open. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! There is nothing worse than getting the club stuck in the ground at impact. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. This instant gratification can be achieved through the 30-45 minute TrackMan Combine process! I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. The best distance comparison we have for those clubs is therefore the carry distance. I agree with you 100%. I recently had my swing analyzed and would like to share the results so that maybe someone could explain this in simpler terms. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. Howarth Golf Performance Studio | Facebook Im a baseball coach who plays golf when I can. The SM9s are an evolution of the Vokeys but not a drastic change, youll notice a difference between these and the SM6s but only a subtle change from the SM8s. Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018. [/quote] [/quote] So much so that if I'm 220 out, a distance I can reach with a perfect 5 wood, ill hit to 50, pitch, putt, par and drive you insane. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. Exactly, I had the same perception in mind too. Jordan Spieth whats in the bag accurate as of the Presidents Cup. If golfers are to continue playing the same length tees, then optimizing their driver distance is going to be key to enhancing their performance. My problem is the amount of power i have and need to work on half wings. Assuming however the pros are hitting standard lofted pitching, gap, sand and lob wedges we found the following stock distances for how far the pros hit them. They are clean and contemporary. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. I think the difference is practice, practice and more practice. I was advised to switched to the 8 bounce as my impact is shallower than when I was previously fitted for my SM8s. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Standard 60 lob wedges meanwhile carry 95 to 105 yards on average. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. And also wondering how LPGA fits into this chart. It's good for some laughs. I think this is very interesting but misleading. I have always wanted a push draw and now i can see the light in the tunnel. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364414933' post='6708795'] Course length, driver optimization, and course strategy are three key components to improving the performance of the AMA. When its hit well I have hit enough times in the 260-270 range so Im probably in that 95 mph swing speed range. My average driving distance is 240 but IF I can make a shot in the sweet spot (Stars Aligned after a long Prayer) I can go 290 to 300 measured on the golf course. The plan is to include this type of information within TrackMan University in the future, but that is likely many months away at this point. Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. I have also never heard a beginner or poorer striker of the golf ball say I need to lower my ball flight which is what these are said to do. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. Of course, playing shorter courses seems very obvious if you want to improve performance. Trackman is pretty interesting, obviously path and angle of attack change depending on the shot your trying to shape. Almost every post I read on the internet the guys say they are swinging 125 mph. hard to say for sure who was at fault in the beginning i am 7 handicap play with a friend who is 26-28 i play blue he plays white even when an extra player joins me on the blue he still plays white. My hunch its even bigger for AFA vs AMA? For example while one pros gap wedge may be 50 another may choose 53 or even 54 for that same gap wedge club and with such a difference in lofts it becomes very difficult to compare with any meaning how far the pros hit the same-named wedge. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. Since SM6 Vokeys have evolved subtly to be exactly what tour players want. Dear Claeys, We highly recommend you to visit a TrackMan coach or fitter close to you, as there are many individual aspects to your question. I would recommend that you go visit a TrackMan certified coach, he/she will be able to help you with your club speed. Thanks. I know his swing speed with driver is up around 120mph but thats all they seem to show on tv. I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. With the AMA averaging 30 yards less than his potential, there is a lot of room for improvement. timestamp='1364355784' post='6704107'] There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution. Am I as good as tour pro? I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. This informative information was more helpful for golfers. I should be getting more distance on this club head speed right? Titleist 913D3 9.5* Diamana D+ 72s [/quote] People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. TrackMan I don't measure my driver distance either. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide, What Wedges Do the Pros Use? How Often Do Pros Hit Driver? This philosophy has been a revelation to me. [/quote] Great read with invaluable data and information. the TrackMan numbers below. Without such a grant, his family would not have been able to follow his passion. Ha, okay. It takes a detailed plan and it takes time, and this is why I think the improvement of AMAs isnt as impressive as it could be. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. This way the material is removed from the face and not spread out which means the grooves are sharper and weight isn't dispersed. I already use the SM8s and having seen the drop off in spin and different performance of my swing (I am less steep at impact these days) I will be changing wedges. Does Trackman update this data each year? I hit the same. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Flexibility, speed, and knowing how to transfer energy the most effi [Note If you are interested in what drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players are using check out the in-depth analysis we have done here.]. Do All Golf Balls Go the Same Distance? [b]XHP 3-Deep (13)- 7.3X @ 43.5 That means the distance from the center of the green tothe edge averages just under 44 feet. While it would be easy to quietly continue his good deeds, the time is right to establish a foundation that can partner with others to positively impact countless philanthropic organizations and communities, and deliver even more good in the world. [url="http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php"]http://www.rotaryswinch-monitor.php[/url] I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. I have the occasional outlier above 250 but thats rare. F rom the comfort of your sofa or if youre lucky, alongside the ropes each major championship gives you a chance to see the biggest hitters in the world unsheathe their drivers and swing away. Spin Rate 2,645.8 6 Iron Trackman Data - What am I missing? Too delofted? Driver: GolfWRX is on the ground in Orlando ahead of the 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill Club & Lodge. Hes learned nothing Olympic legend launches scathing attack on Tiger Woods over tampon apology, Golf fans left bemused following bizarre Jim Nantz blunder, Best driver 2023: Expert club fitters recommend the best driver for your swing speed, An UP-CLOSE look at Tiger Woods famous Scotty Cameron putter, David Feherty ridiculed for Greg Norman comment during LIV broadcast, Tour pro says LIV would be done if Brooks Koepka returned to PGA Tour, TOUR REPORT: McIlroy switches drivers during Genesis Invitational (plus Tigers iron change). Do you suppose my distance is bs? I know I hit the ball a long way though. I visited Hillside GC practice ground to have a full custom fitting session with the new SM9s. Thats a course representative of the average golfer? [/quote] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] PGA, Executive Director, Golf House Kentucky | Kentucky Golf Foundation.
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